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#51
Thanks!

Re the notification bug. Yeah I think I spotted that previously running a PMPC package where the conflicting process was running on multiple users. I ended up killing the processes manually and running again and it worked fine.

Re the ID's. PMPC desktop publisher and it was 7-Zip by memory. Not a custom app.
Am I correct in understanding your response that this is mainly a logging thing? Just a plain text thing used to quote into the log files for troubleshooting purposes?

Or is there some functionality impacted beyond that?
#52
The AppID and UpdateID are mostly used to correlate installations with the specific versions of the product. And as you've noticed, there is no direct communication between scriptrunner and Intune. The Packages are self contained. You'll notice the values are used in the log as well.

Are the Intune Apps/Updates you are copying built by the Publisher, or our Cloud Portal? I ask because you'll notice our packages from the Cloud Portal can use a new command line parameter that has configurations built into it. So if you just run the patchmypc-scriptrunner.exe only, it's possible some of your configurations are not being passed to the 'installation'.

For the MCP notifications, they are only shown if the process is running. If no user has the app open, then the installation will continue and run.

With multi user devices, it will show the notification to which ever user has the process open. But I think we have an active bug right now that if more than one user has the process open, the installation will be skipped.
#53
Hey KRGU,

Please note that there was a hash change by the vendor for the installer recently and we have updated it in the catalogue.


Please re-publish the product and let us know how it goes.
#54
Currently on our servers we are manually installing software to them as our CIO did not want to deprecated WSUS and we didnt get budget approval for SCCM.

This has often simply just been us exporting a copy of an APP package from Intune, copying to the target device and running the script runner exe as admin. Works well enough and also means we have a consistent experience for things like user notifications, conflicts etc. etc.

Though looking at the XML with the packages configs I am a little curious how the ApplicationID and UpdateID fields are used by the script runner if at all.

The software appears to install perfectly fine on these non-intune managed devices and I am not aware of any direct upstream connectivity from the script runner to the Intune graph from the target endpoints.

Does anyone know how these values are utilised if at all?


As I was thinking of user notifications just made me wonder on a second thing...

When running the script runner as an admin, or as system, how many users get the notifications? If its a multi-user device do all users get the notification or only a subset?
#55
The first public release of Opera 134, specifically 134.0.5954.46, which is not the version PMPC incorrectly showed on July 30, and still shows on PMPC notices as current today, has been made available today (Aug 6) both from within the browser and at https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/
#56
A short delay is understandable if every update is verified manually, and I would rather wait a few hours than receive an incorrect package.
#57
I'll let other respond with their thoughts on the differences.

We do have the below blog post from when Enterprise App Management was released a few years ago. Bryan does a great job comparing things.
https://patchmypc.com/blog/enterprise-app-management/

Let us know if you have any additional questions.
#58
Hi All,

I'd previously heard whispers that Intune was bringing out native patch management for third party apps in the near future. My CIO is now throwing KB's at me on some GA/Preview functionality in Intune that allegedly performs just that.

I am still very early on reading into all of this but my gut instinct tells me that PMPC is winning hands down against the Intune functionality... But I was hoping that people more knowledgeable than I could summarise the big failings of Intune, the big wins for PMPC, or direct me to a blog post that has already done a great breakdown and comparison of the two?

My CIO is on a budget purging spree lately and is eyeing off PMPC as an unnecessary additional expense if we can get the functionality within our existing application/vendor stack (i.e. M365/Intune). Even if it were the exact same cost for the exact same features to Intune & PMPC the CIO would still likely want to cut PMPC to reduce vendor bloat.

My initial suspicions are that PMPC still stands strongly against the Intune implementation but would like to get some ammunition and receipts to be able to challenge the CIO on their assumptions.

If anyone has any insight into this I am all ears.

Appreciated!
#59
On the desktop blog, a comment notes under the last stable 133 build that there's a 134 build at  https://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/desktop/134.0.5954.26/, but it's not been approved for uploading yet.
#60
It's very simple: Opera > Help > About Opera, wait (screenshot below taken just now).

Then when there's a contradiction between PMPC and Opera like this, I check the Opera Desktop Team's Blog site, which shows all the recent stable desktop and developer's versions. Checking there now, Opera 134 is not listed, with the July 23 update being the last: Opera 133.0.5932.85 Stable update (scroll down a little). https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/