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Started by topbanana, April 03, 2025, 01:16:12 PM

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topbanana

The scroll bars don't resize to represent the proportion of the full length of the 'page', which is the normal, expected behaviour of every other scroll bar on Windows.
This makes the (crazily triple line spaced) Settings page look like it's 15 pages long!  Where it's actually only 1.5 pages long on my monitor. (and where it could/should easily fit on half a page, and be more readable/usable if properly line-spaced!)

Also, a common problem, they are super skinny.  Which makes them difficult to grab with the mouse, if we want to scroll with them, or if we want to page-down, by clicking in the gaps.  Please make them a normal, usable thickness.

Form follows function.  Always.


topbanana

What changed?

The scroll bars are still non standard.
They're not sized to represent the proportion of the page being displayed.
They're still skinny.

I can't see any difference in 5.1.2.0

When Windows, et al. was created, it developed into having a very logical set of features, and a very logical set of behaviours.  We ALL learnt this.  We all just know how it works.
Microsoft, then for some stupid reason, decided to change a lot of this behaviour and deleting many features, dumbing it down.  All totally illogical.  All abysmal for the User Experience, as they have to learn another behaviour that's changed from the original, logical behaviour... And for no good reason... Other than to be different, or to look pretty.  So it's become pretty annoying, pretty bad for workflow, pretty bad for navigation, pretty bad for productivity... Just pretty bad. 
They tried to re-invent the wheel, but now it's no longer round, it has lots of flat-spots, the axel is off centre, but it does now have an AI button.

PatchMyPC is an app that installs, updates, uninstalls, caches app installers...  It is a tool.  A very useful tool.  It is not an art project.  It just needs to work.  And be easy to work.  And work in a predictable, logical, familiar way.  With no 'quirks', or oddities.  The UI for an app like this would work very, very well if it used the most basic of UIs from back in the Windows 95/NT days.  The User Experience would be great, as it'd work great, just like every other app.  But inside that app, inside the UI was all the goodies, all the apps to install, update, cache, etc... And it'd work great.

But this is not what v5 has turned out to be.
I'm guessing that the GUI is an off the shelf offering?  Where you can't change much?  Is this the problem?  So perhaps just dump it.  It's not taking PMPC in the correct direction.
Just go for GUI that works in standard, logical, normal, familiar ways.  That is a modern look, but without any of the horrendous 'advances' that Windows, et al. has adopted with their dumbed down tablet for pre-schoolers UX.

You personally created this app to be a very useful tool.  And we all agreed!

The GUI/UX for v5 just is not good.  Please just dump it, if it can't be modified to look/work in a normal way.

Again, v4 with the categories restored, and the wonderfully expanded app list, it would have been welcomed, celebrated by all of your users!

Your users are after work sys-admins, wannabe sys-admins, PC enthusiasts, folks on the spectrum of autism and/or OCD that want/need everything to be just right, all up to date.  They're not art students, or children.  We just need well functioning, well behaving, useful tool.