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Title: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Fragbert on October 06, 2025, 02:19:59 PM
The visual c++ runtimes from MS are distinct releases grouped by year as separate and different programs. Many are required for older programs and games and do not run using current year versions (aka "2015-2022" v14.x).

After MS released to the general public the latest v14 version of the runtimes v14.44.35.211 under the "2015-2022" moniker - PatchMyPc incorrectly detects the latest 2005 v8.x version as an outdated "2015-2022" build. Again, many users maintain an up to date library of 2005, 2008, 2012, 2013, *and* 2015-2022 runtimes where each of these versions have separately maintained revision forks.

Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 07, 2025, 05:29:43 AM
Can you test now please?
Also, is this an ARM machine?
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Fragbert on October 07, 2025, 07:24:19 AM
Quote from: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 07, 2025, 05:29:43 AMCan you test now please?
Also, is this an ARM machine?

Still there, this is a traditional x64 system, not an ARM machine.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 10, 2025, 05:47:14 AM
Sorry for the late reply!
How about now?
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Fragbert on October 10, 2025, 08:21:21 AM
Fixed, thank you sir!
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 19, 2025, 08:52:22 PM
Unfortunately it's not fixed, today PMPc is detecting VC++ 2013 v12.0.40664 as an "outdated" version of VC++ 2015-2022 (which currently is 14.50.35710, but PMPC thinks it's 14.44.35211.0).
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 22, 2025, 03:15:05 PM
well?
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 23, 2025, 02:53:17 AM
How about now? It should be fixed.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 23, 2025, 11:15:04 AM
seems to be fixed, but microsoft visual C++ 14 / 2015-2022 just doesn't appear at all in the list.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 23, 2025, 12:13:33 PM
Quote from: jvidal on October 23, 2025, 11:15:04 AMseems to be fixed, but microsoft visual C++ 14 / 2015-2022 just doesn't appear at all in the list.
Well, that just means it is not installed :)
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 24, 2025, 08:42:37 PM
wrong, they are installed. I don't know if you now, but they changed the name from "Microsoft visual C++ 2015-2022" to "microsoft Visual C++ V14" from version 14.50.35710 on
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 25, 2025, 12:10:55 AM
This is the latest stable version from their official download links.

Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 25, 2025, 04:34:10 PM
1. that information is outdated (it usually takes a while to be updated). I didn't just "make up" version 14.50.35710

https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/3b777a0f-1066-455c-bd73-80da97ec7f88/0F09954A16E35346D2435DCA21E0802CAB8D2D9D1929CC6D54EE7C1E1A01B8AD/VC_redist.x86.exe

https://download.visualstudio.microsoft.com/download/pr/3b777a0f-1066-455c-bd73-80da97ec7f88/CE1A6F9F3EB3F9581A100BE793AD4D7D043632E1776FB40CB654C59504776151/VC_redist.x64.exe

those are the official links from microsoft servers.


2. that doesn't change the fact that PMPc is not detecting *any* version of VC++ 14/2015-2022.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 25, 2025, 04:54:56 PM
Sorry, when I talked about outdated information, I was thinking of this page: https://learn.microsoft.com/es-es/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#latest-supported-redistributable-version

which usually takes a while to be up to date.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 26, 2025, 02:22:48 AM
It's not updated in the official download page as you mentioned which probably means the ones you sent are in preview.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 27, 2025, 07:06:56 PM
yes, maybe, but still there's the problem of PMPC NOT DETECTING any VC++14/2015-2002 runtime, regardless of its status as stable or preview (or whatever)
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 28, 2025, 02:08:36 AM
There has never been an issue with VS++ 2015-2022 with PMPC.
And there is nothing called VC++ 14 that we are aware of.
As long as the app isn't called "Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable" in the Add/Remove Programs, then it's not installed and you are using another version/edition.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on October 30, 2025, 09:07:44 PM
wow, you are stubborn!
I told you they changed the name. I EVEN SENT YOU THE LINKS. did you even bother to download and install those versions?
Installing those version REPLACES the previous "Visual C++ 2105-2022 Redistributable"
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on October 31, 2025, 12:34:53 AM
Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable is NOT Visual C++ v14 Redistributable
And it doesn't exist on their download page (that you sent) and there is now news about it and I don't even know where did you got it from.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#latest-supported-redistributable-version
We are not going to replace this with that for millions of users when there is nothing official about it.
When/IF they officially replaced 2015 to v14, then we will do the same.
Until then, it doesn't even exist.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on November 18, 2025, 09:15:27 PM
yes, it does. I have JUST downloaded them form the official page https://learn.microsoft.com/es-es/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170#latest-supported-redistributable-version

and IT IS CALLED VC14++ NOW. and PMPC was aking for it, but once I installed it, it just disappeared from the list of programs.

Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: Omar (Patch My PC) on November 18, 2025, 11:12:04 PM
Yeah it's official now so we added it.
We will improve the detection name soon.
Title: Re: 2005 release of VC runtimes incorrectly detected as outdated revision of current
Post by: jvidal on November 19, 2025, 10:26:07 PM
FWIW, I"m still not seeing it under "my apps", by any name. the last one is MS vc++ 2013
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